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    Get Involved - 'Modern football seems to have no place for goal poachers'published at 10:47 BST

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    All that possession and no goals. Teams need poachers like Lineker and Van Nistelrooy. Modern football seems to have no place for them. A bloke who can put the ball in the back of the net is gold dust.

    Paul, Faringdon

  2. Relive penalty shootout dramaspublished at 10:42 BST

    If you don't have time to watch the full highlights, then at least check out the penalty shootouts.

    It was a first for Germany, after winning on the four previous occasions they were taken to penalties at the World Cup.

    Sadly for the Dutch and manager Ronald Koeman, their penalty shootout defeat was an all-too familiar feeling...

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    Relive thrilling penalty shootout between Germany and Paraguay

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    The Netherlands are own worst enemy in shoot out

  3. Recap - Morocco, Paraguay & Brazil throughpublished at 10:37 BST

    For anyone who is just joining us, we have been discussing the World Cup's overnight results, which saw Morocco, Paraguay and Brazil book their places in the last 16.

    The Netherlands, Germany and Brazil, meanwhile, are packing their bags to go home.

    Both the Dutch and the Germans lost on a penalty shootout, against Morocco and Paraguay, respectively.

    Japan led against Brazil, only to be pegged back by a second-half fightback that culminated in a winner from Arsenal's Gabriel Martinelli in the sixth minute of stoppage time.

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    Netherlands crumble in penalty shootout as Morocco reach last 16

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    Paraguay stun Germany on penalties to reach last 16

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    Martinelli scores a stoppage-time winner to send Brazil through to last 16

  4. 'Arsenal scored 60% of their goals like that' - Klopppublished at 10:31 BST

    Germany 1-1 Paraguay (Paraguay won 4-3 on pens)

    It might not be the right time for Jurgen Klopp to think about the Germany job, but he had plenty to say on other subjects in his temporary role as TV pundit.

    And he could not resist to take a dig at Premier League champions Arsenal in the process.

    The former Liverpool manager, while working for German television during the World Cup, likened Tah's disallowed goal to many which the Gunners had scored throughout the season.

    "If the goal is illegal, then Arsenal won't be English champions...they've scored 60% of their goals that way," Klopp told MagentaTV.

    "We [Germany] win the game when the ball goes in. So, of course, this is brutal."

    As the game restarted, former Premier League assistant referee Darren Cann shared his views on the decision.

    "This is soft, in my opinion," Cann said on BBC One.

    "But judging by what we've seen in the tournament so far, it wouldn't surprise me if they do rule it out.

    "We've seen two or three goals ruled out for very small offences. This is hardly anything.

    "It's a small block on the goalkeeper, but for me, it's not enough. I suspect they will be ruling this out. We feel this should not be disallowed."

    Ex-Scotland winger Pat Nevin, in Boston for BBC Radio 5 Live, also believed the apparent foul was not clear enough to rule the goal out.

    He said: "It is mayhem around there. There is a block - has it affected the goalkeeper? It looks like it.

    "It is a subjective call. That is not clear."

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  5. Stunned indeed - fans react in Germanypublished at 10:28 BST

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    Get Involved - 'This has stunned a nation'published at 10:23 BST

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    Greetings from Berlin. The mood is very sombre, angry & disbelief. Disbelief of exiting so early against a team Germany were expected to beat. Don’t get me wrong, no-one was expecting Germany to lift the World Cup, but this has stunned a nation. Never has schadenfreude been so relevant 😀

    Jon, Berlin

  7. 'Not the moment to think about my future'published at 10:18 BST

    Germany 1-1 Paraguay (Paraguay won 4-3 on pens)

    Jurgen Klopp has said it is “not the right moment” to talk about becoming head coach of Germany following their World Cup exit.

    Defeat has seen pressure mount on Julian Nagelsmann, but former Liverpool manager Klopp – now Red Bull’s head of global soccer – played down talk of him taking up the national-team reins.

    Asked as a pundit on MagentaTV what would have to happen to consider the job, Klopp said in quotes reported on Bild: “I haven’t thought about that yet.

    “I’ve often been in that situation myself as a coach, where a big dream has been shattered.

    “I understand that when people talk about the national coach, my name is mentioned. But it’s not the right moment to talk about it, especially not with me.

    “I have a job that I really enjoy. And as far as I know, it’s not a part-time job. The fact is, Germany was eliminated today, and this is not the moment for me to think about Jurgen Klopp’s future.”

    Julian Nagelsmann & Jurgen KloppImage source, Getty Images
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    Get Involved - 'Players who misses the penalties, not the coach'published at 10:16 BST

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    I have not seen the game, but it’s the players who missed the penalties, not the coach, so he should not be blamed.

    Graeme, Chigwell

  9. Nagelsmann 'showed his age and inexperience' - Honigsteinpublished at 10:13 BST

    Germany 1-1 Paraguay (Paraguay won 4-3 on pens)

    Speaking on the BBC Football Daily podcast, German journalist Raphael Honigstein said:

    "I think Nagelsmann got the benefit of the doubt when Germany got knocked out of the Euros to Spain.

    "Spain went on the win the tournament and it made it more respectable, the team played well, players did enough to reconcile the fans and there was a sense of momentum and optimism.

    "All of that was lost in the Nations League. Qualifying for the World Cup was also uneven.

    "Nagelsmann was never able to create the positivity he created during the Euros. He has made some strange decisions, and he communicated them in a strange way.

    "He had to apologise to Deniz Undav for talking him down publicly and then he found himself rowing back on some decisions, like bringing back Manuel Neuer.

    "There has been a lack of clarity and maturity. I think you need a sense of seniority and calmness in this job. Nagelsmann at times showed his age and inexperience."

    • Listen to the rest of the latest Football Daily episode with hosts Rick Edwards and Lloyd Griffith here.
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  10. 'The next step is not panic'published at 10:08 BST

    Germany 1-1 Paraguay (Paraguay won 4-3 on penalties)

    BBC 5 Live Breakfast

    German football reporter and commentator Christina Rann talking about Germany's exit from the World Cup and what is means for their head coach Julian Nagelsmann: "This is where the difficult conversations start to begin. Nagelsmann has to analyse his own decisions, that's part of being the national coach, but responsibility doesn't stop with the coach. Players have been part of the several disappointing tournaments. They also have to ask themselves difficult questions and responsibility has to be shared.

    "Germany had one of the oldest average starting line ups and, at the same time, we do have talented younger generation waiting. The challenge is finding the balance between the experience and fresh energy players.

    "We took [Manuel] Neuer back as goalie for that aura, and he missed that also. We missed the aura, the confidence so this is why we need the honesty of how we can rebuild that. Also, we need to have a fresh start right now, they still create chances and control games - but football is about decisive moments and Germany lost too many of those.

    "So, I think the next step is not panic but building the next generation with those clear ideals and of course shared responsibility."

  11. Nagelsmann wants to stay onpublished at 10:03 BST

    Germany 1-1 Paraguay (Paraguay won 4-3 on pens)

    Immediately after the game, Julien Nagelsmann was repeatedly asked about his future and said he was "not someone who runs away" but admitted he would not be popular among the German supporters.

    "If we're going to do a survey today in Germany, people are not going to speak about me positively obviously," he added. "I did feel the support in the stadium. I don't think everyone in Germany will agree with me staying on and continuing as manager of the team.

    "I'd like to praise all the German fans who came to the stadium. I expected a totally different reaction from them but it was amazing and impressive the way they supported us, even after the defeat.

    "I'm not going to step back only because we are eliminated. If the DFB [German football association] want me to continue, I am going to continue. I know how the industry works and a lot of people now want me to leave. I want to continue if the German FA wants me to."

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    Get Involved- 'Bring back golden goal'published at 10:01 BST

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    Penalties need to go. Awful way to decide a contest, and it encourages teams to play like Paraguay. Bring back golden goal and remove a player from each team every 5 mins until it’s settled. Unrivalled drama will prevail.

    Alex, Reading

  13. The end for Nagelsmann?published at 09:59 BST

    Germany 1-1 Paraguay (Paraguay won 4-3 on pens)

    Julien Nagelsmann, a Bundesliga winner in charge of Bayern Munich in 2022, took over the national team in 2023, but they only reached the quarter-finals of the 2024 Euros they hosted.

    Their World Cup campaign in North America started well, thrashing newcomers Curacao 7-1 and then coming from behind to defeat Ivory Coast 2-1.

    They lost 2-1 to Ecuador in their final group game - although they had already guaranteed top spot - but the manner of this loss to Paraguay leaves Nagelsmann fighting for his job, with plenty of calls already on social media for ex-Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp to replace him.

    "If you consider the whole tournament, the way we played, it is a deserved loss," former Germany defender Arne Friedrich said on BBC Radio 5 Live.

    "Nagelsmann has to face the consequences. It is very disappointing, but that is sport. I would definitely say the journey continues without Nagelsmann."

    Former Germany midfielder Thomas Hitzlsperger, speaking on BBC One, added: "It's hard to explain how Germany got into this tournament with so many problems. It's unacceptable.

    "It doesn't look good for Nagelsmann. In the last few months, he hasn't dealt with situations well. With the expanded World Cup format, to go out so early would be tough to take for any big nation."

    Should he stay or should he go?

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  14. Postpublished at 09:56 BST

    I've had a word with myself about that last comment about Sol Campbell and Euro 96, which was swiftly removed.

    Of course, Sol had a golden goal ruled out in England's last-16 defeat to Argentina in the 1998 World Cup.

    England actually benefitted from a friendly refereeing decision in their Euro 96 semi-final, when Germany had a golden goal ruled out.

    Swings and roundabouts...

    Right, let's move on to a discussion about the future of Germany manager Julien Nagelsmann.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 09:52 BST

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    To all the Germans moaning about the disallowed goal, Frank Lampard would like a word.

    Tim, London

  16. Germany fans react to penalty shootout defeatpublished at 09:49 BST

    Germany 1-1 Paraguay (Paraguay won 4-3 on pens)

    A polar opposite to the Paraguay fans, Germany supporters gave their thoughts after the full-time whistle...

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    Klopp for Germany? Fans react to penalty shootout defeat

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    Get Involved- 'Strange rules apply in football'published at 09:45 BST

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    Strange rules apply in football. Outfield players can push, shove, tackle and barge each other and often there is no foul, but as soon as a feather touches a goalkeeper and he appears injured goals are disallowed. The sooner football cracks down on the actors, won't be soon enough for the game.

    Douglas, Kilmacolm

  18. 'A joke' - how a 'terrible' VAR disallowed goal cost Germanypublished at 09:38 BST

    Germany 1-1 Paraguay (Paraguay won 4-3 on pens)

    Germany thought their blushes had been spared when defender Jonathan Tah rose highest to head his side into a 2-1 lead in the 12th minute of extra time of their World Cup tie with Paraguay, only for the video assistant referee (VAR) to intervene.

    The unmarked Tah rose at the back post and powered a header across Paraguay goalkeeper Orlando Gill, but the effort was chalked off after what former England captain Alan Shearer called a "pathetic" incident seconds before.

    As the corner was swung in, Germany's Waldemar Anton was judged to have impeded Gill, as the goalkeeper fell to the turf before getting up and attempting to make the save from Tah's header.

    But after referee Jalal Jayed made his way over to the pitchside monitor at the recommendation of the VAR and ruled the goal out, Shearer said on BBC One the Paraguayan had "conned the referee".

    Shearer insisted: "I don't agree with that decision at all. The keeper falls to the ground on a slight touch and it's very soft. I thought it was a terrible decision.

    "You have to understand it is a contact sport, the goalkeeper has conned the referee and the VAR. The way he went down was pathetic."

    And after Paraguay triumphed 4-3 on penalties following the 1-1 draw, Germany head coach Julian Nagelsmann was left fuming at the disallowed goal.

    He said: "In my opinion, this foul was not a real foul; it was actually a joke that his goal was disallowed."

    Nagelsmann was shown a yellow card for his protests as the effort was ruled out, while his future remains unclear.

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    'Terrible decision' - Germany have goal controversially disallowed by VAR

  19. Postpublished at 09:37 BST

    Germany 1-1 Paraguay (Paraguay won 4-3 on pens)

    There will be no day off in Germany today, although there could be a few sore heads.

    Drowning sorrows can do that to a nation.

    But should Germany have been taken to penalties?

    Didn't German defender Jonathan Tah score a perfectly good goal in extra-time?

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    Get Involvedpublished at 09:34 BST

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm a big football fan, but a national holiday just for winning a knockout game!! It's quite pathetic, considering a country needs running.

    Rik, Missenden

    Bah humbug Rik, bah humbug...