Summary

  • Reform UK MSPs walk out of the Holyrood chamber after party leader Malcolm Offord says discussing Scottish independence is a "waste of time"

  • First Minister John Swinney led the afternoon debate on the future of Scotland

  • Earlier he had taken questions from backbench MSPs at FMQs

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Reform walk out of Scottish Parliament indyref debate
  1. Goodbye for nowpublished at 17:46 BST

    That's all from our live coverage of today's events at Holyrood, which began with First Minister's Questions before the debate on Scotland's right to decide on independence.

    Catherine Lyst edited the page and Rachel Grant was the writer.

    Thanks for joining us.

  2. 'Gross discourtesy' to members of chamberpublished at 17:45 BST

    Presiding Officer Kenneth Gibson expresses his surprise at the Reform walk-out, saying he had been given no indication in previous meetings that the party had any difficulties with the motion.

    Gibson describes Reform's "antics" as "a gross discourtesy to all members of the chamber".

  3. Motion is passedpublished at 17:42 BST
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    John Swinney's motion - that the Parliament agrees that Scotland is a nation that has a right to decide its own future - has beenpassed, with minor amendments.

  4. Debate comes to a closepublished at 17:32 BST

    The Scottish Parliament debate on Scotland’s right to decide on independence has now concluded.

    First Minister John Swinney's speech highlighted that for the first time since 2014 there was acknowledgement from the UK prime minister that "Scotland should have a referendum when it is likely that people would vote for it".

    Swinney said support for independence was growing from 45% in 2014 to regularly being more than 50% of people in Scotland now.

    While other parties proposed amendments, Reform's Scotland leader Malcolm Offord withdrew his, saying the proceedings were a "vanity project".

    He then led Reform UK MSPs out of the chamber, to jeers from MSPs.

  5. The million Scots too young to vote in 2014published at 17:31 BST

    One SNP talking point during the debate was the demographic change in Scotland since the last independence referendum in 2014.

    John Swinney initially raised the issue in his opening speech and it was echoed later in the proceedings.

    He claimed that by 2029 there would be more than one million people in Scotland who did not have the opportunity to vote because of their age and by 2030, the youngest voters would not even have been born in 2014.

    He added that Scotland's place in the UK and the world "had changed beyond recognition" after Brexit, and the "country that people voted to stay part of in 2014 is no more" and it could not give the "security and prosperity we need".

    For the Greens, Ross Greer later added that it "was not good enough" that these one million younger Scots might never have their say on independence, which for the Greens was the route to "regain our European citizenship".

  6. What has Andy Burnham said about another referendum?published at 16:45 BST

    Andy BurnhamImage source, Reuters

    Two weeks ago, Prime Minister Andy Burnham told MPs that both in Scotland and Northern Ireland a border poll would be considered if there was a clear consensus and public opinion had changed.

    That prompted John Swinney to write to him, asking for a meeting to discuss how such a mechanism could be enshrined in law.

    But in his reply, Burnham said no consensus currently existed and he repeated his view that another referendum was off limits while he focused on growing the economy and cost of living pressures.

    Burnham's letter said Northern Ireland and Scotland had different historical experiences and distinct constitutional arrangements.

    He added that in 2014, when the previous referendum was held, there was agreement across both the UK and Scottish parliaments that such a vote should be held - but he argued that there was no such consensus today.

  7. Malcolm Offord and Reform UK MSPs walk out of the chamberpublished at 16:11 BST

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    Reform walk out of Scottish Parliament indyref debate

  8. MSPs join the debatepublished at 15:53 BST

    MSPs from all parties at Holyrood are now having their say.

    You can continue to follow events in the chamber by clicking on the Watch live icon at the top of this page.

  9. Amendments to Swinney's motion proposedpublished at 15:47 BST

    Other amendments to John Swinney's "Scotland’s Right to Decide" motion are being made by MSPs from the Greens, Conservatives and Liberal Democrats.

  10. Marra - 'Route to independence has always been clear'published at 15:37 BST

    Michael Marra

    Introducing his amendment, Michael Marra, the new leader of Scottish Labour, calls for Holyrood to "deliver change now" on the significant issues - "cost of living, on opportunities for our young people, on secure work, good housing, and better public services".

    He points out that Scotland is set to miss child poverty targets "by a mile" and "this parliament’s priority should be getting us back on track to recommit ourselves to that commitment and change the lives of children right across the country".

    He claims that the debate on independence is about "managing the first minister’s party, not leading this country".

    Marra says supporters of independence have been "failed" by the SNP leader, adding that the route has always been clear: "Build a consensus - a settled will of the Scottish people - and make it overwhelming."

  11. Reform MSPs walk outpublished at 15:34 BST
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    Offord and Reform MSPs walk out of the Holyrood chamber

    Reform UK Scotland leader Malcolm Offord withdraws his amendment as he says the debate is a "farce", "pointless" and a "vanity project".

    He then leads Reform MSPs out of the chamber.

  12. People want 'wealthier and fairer' Scotland - FMpublished at 15:24 BST

    Swinney points out that the UK is a voluntary union and the right of Scotland to decide "belongs to the people of Scotland, not any politician or party".

    He says support for independence is growing from 45% in 2014 to regularly being more than 50% of people in Scotland now.

    He says people want independence to control the "wealthy resources" of the country to create a "wealthier and fairer" Scotland.

    Swinney adds that he wants to hear the opinions of those who are not yet convinced and those who think they never will be.

  13. Referendum is 'vital question to debate' - Swinneypublished at 15:14 BST

    John Swinney

    The first minister opens the debate saying the right of the people of Scotland to decide the future of their country is a "vital question to debate".

    He says that for the first time since 2014 there is "explicit acknowledgement from the UK prime minister that Scotland should have a referendum when it is likely that people would vote for it".

    He hopes for a "meaningful discussion about where power lies", he adds.

  14. Offord makes point of order about legitimacy of debatepublished at 15:07 BST

    Malcolm Offord

    The debate begins with a point of order from Malcolm Offord, the leader of Reform in Scotland.

    He quotes the Scotland Act (1998) which states the union is a reserved matter, and asks if the debate is "inappropriate" and if the meeting of parliament should be closed.

    The presiding officer simply replies: "No."

  15. Marra backs Scotland's right to decide futurepublished at 15:03 BST

    Glenn Campbell
    BBC Scotland Political Editor

    The new leader of Scottish Labour has backed Scotland's right to decide its constitutional future.

    BBC News understands Michael Marra's party is willing to support that position in the non-binding vote at Holyrood.

    Labour remains opposed to independence and another referendum, with Marra challenging the SNP to show that constitutional change is the "settled will" of the country before a second vote is held.

    The Scottish government has argued that a majority of pro-independence MSPs at Holyrood represents a mandate for a second referendum, although Prime Minister Andy Burnham has said such a ballot is "off limits".

  16. Independence debate coming uppublished at 15:01 BST

    As FMQs comes to a close, we turn to a debate on independence, led by First Minister John Swinney.

    The motion urges the Scottish Parliament to agree that "Scotland is a nation that has a right to decide its own future".

    The debate is due to run until about 17:30 with the motion expected to pass with the help of votes from the Scottish Greens.

    You can follow events in the Holyrood chamber by clicking on the Watch live icon at the top of this page.

  17. Welcomepublished at 14:20 BST

    Good afternoon and welcome to our live coverage of Tuesday's session of First Minister's Questions.

    John Swinney will face 30 minutes of questions from backbench MSPs.

    The first minister will then lead a debate on Scottish independence, titled Scotland's right to decide its own future.

    You can follow events in the Holyrood chamber by clicking on the Watch live icon at the top of this page from just before 14:30.