Does the Cardiff summit bring independence closer?

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If you’re interested in this episode, you may also like: 'Has Burnham caved on indyref2?’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00315w2 The first ministers of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have declared that 'Westminster's time is coming to an end' at a summit in Cardiff. We speak to The Herald’s Rebecca McCurdy and our Westminster correspondent Paris Gourtsoyannis about the significance of this gathering for John Swinney’s independence strategy. Photo: PA Scotcast is the BBC’s Scottish news podcast. This episode is hosted by Martin Geissler. Get in touch: scotcast@bbc.co.uk